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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by mrbill on Today at 02:11:05 PM »
And yes, I know that we heard from StreamLicensing once.  But one time is not enough.  They should have someone posting here on a regular basis assuring us that they are continuing to work on the situation.
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by mrbill on Today at 02:07:18 PM »
Like many of you, I'm waiting until next week to see if things are worked out.  If not, I will probably go ahead and pay the license fee to ASCAP.

I clicked on the link from the email I received from ASCAP (someone named Max) so I could check out the information ahead of time in case I have to pay them.  On the form I saw online, there was a check box asking if I had read and agreed to ASCAP's terms and conditions.  When I clicked on the link so I could read their terms and conditions, it went to a page stating that I couldn't read the terms and conditions unless I log in or register first.  Anyone else have this happen?  Why would I want to register just to read the terms and conditions when I'm not sure at this point that I am going to pay them?  This makes no sense to me.  I should be able to read the terms and conditions up front before registering.

I sent a response to Max at ASCAP.  I'll see what he says.  I'm still praying that SL and ASCAP get this worked out before July 31.

I must say that the silence on the part of SteamLicensing bothers me.  On one hand, I understand that when you are involved in a legal issue, you don't want to say much of anything to anyone until it is resolved.  On the other hand, this does remind me of Live365 during the last years of their existence (I was using their service) when we never heard anything from management there.  Any kind of communication - even if you don't really say much - is better than silence.  Those of us who were with Live365 felt like we had the rug yanked out from underneath us.  I really don't want to see a repeat of that situation.
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by CharlieF on July 21, 2017, 04:11:45 PM »
I'm going with the cooler heads. I take the following as good signs.
SL is still selling licensing, they are still advertise ASCAP on their site, and we have not received anymore emails from ASCAP. 
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by oldjoe on July 21, 2017, 10:50:16 AM »
Tick Tock; Tick Tock
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by solidrockradio on July 21, 2017, 08:14:07 AM »
just because the rate we were quoted from ASCAP, does not mean that is what SL was paying ASCAP. They, meaning, SL, would have had a contracted rate based on the number of clients and projected clients.

Cooler heads will prevail and I am sure SL will give us an update before the deadline provided by ASCAP.
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by albb on July 21, 2017, 12:06:41 AM »
ASCAP has terminated their agreement with SL and it seems to me this will be a long battle. If SL does not announce that, effective August 1st, they will reduce our monthly fees to compensate for us paying ASCAP directly (200 per year, that's a 16, 17 dollars per month discount), my station will go dark on July 31st.
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by elvise on July 20, 2017, 09:12:44 PM »
I'm with BullsEyeRadio. I'm either gonna pull all ASCAP music from my stations on Aug. 1st or the stations will go dark until there's some resolution.

Screw 'em.
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by CharlieF on July 20, 2017, 06:41:02 PM »
Well......... other than shutting down there's Pronetlicensing they start at $100 a month plus a year commitment for SoundExchange meaning that if you shut down your still owe the $500 minimum SE fee. Live365 you can pay $59 a month but you can't air your own commercials and you only get 1500 TLH granted streaming is included but big deal. For what you get from SL your looking at $139 a month from Live365. You could go direct with the PROS but SESAC alone is almost $700 a year minimum fee and no PRO will bill monthly ASCAP, BMI, and Sound Exchange are annual and SESAC is bi-annual. I am sure SL will at least partially make good on the added expense but, it may not happen overnight.
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by BullsEyeRadio on July 20, 2017, 06:22:45 PM »
I'd rather cut my own throat than to pay these corporate thugs !
They are not getting a dime from me.
I'll go silent before they get a red cent !
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Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Licensing not paid?
« Last post by CharlieF on July 20, 2017, 05:30:28 PM »
Good article, but regarding the SL situation it didn't tell us anything we didn't know already. From an economic standpoint forgetting about the fact that I like SL's service by the month even with the ASCAP hit SL is still the biggest bang for the buck. I am waiting until the last possible moment to pay ASCAP.
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