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Catch All Discussion Board / Some Observations
« Last post by on October 03, 2017, 12:38:51 PM »
I am distressed to hear Webcasters say they are quitting or are otherwise panicked into considering quitting. Please don't.

First, who the frell am I? I worked in terrestrial radio for years before I founded in 2003. We are a niche station that's never had a huge audience and never will, but I have been through the Internet radio wars for 14 years and I have some observations to share with you all about this ASCAP nonsense.

Look, I understand why so many of you have had misgivings and even panicked at ASCAP's nasty letters. But I also understand the war and what it is all about. This may seem like a crisis but this latest kerfuffle is nothing compared to 2002, 2007, 2010, and 2015. Each of those years were going to be "the end of Internet radio." It wasn't, even though those threats were real. This is not. This is just one of the PROs trying to scam you because they are in financial trouble. The PROs have been trying to intimidate us for years. The only surprise to me was that it was ASCAP doing the threatening this time - usually it is SoundExchange. The PROs want to scare you to trick you into either paying two or three times what you should or to give up Webcasting altogether.

Don't fall for it.

Many of you wonder who to believe - ASCAP or Anthony Hernandez. No question in my mind who I believe and it isn't ASCAP. StreamLicensing is doing the right thing and I applaud them for their actions.

I have also noticed that most of the negative and panicky comments on this forum are based on things people have read on the Facebook "Internet Radio Broadcasters" group. STOP. Please stop. Most of the "information" posted on the Facebook "Internet Radio Broadcasters" group is worthless. Worse, there are several people active on that group who are deliberately spreading false information trying to convince Internet radio Webcasters to quit and others are spreading false information to try to get Webcasters to switch to a certain corporation that wants to exploit you (hint - they aren't as new and different as they claim to be). The sooner you stop reading what's posted in that Facebook group, the better off you will be. If you want real information about what is going on in Internet radio, try - they will not lie to you or try to sell you something.

I have never for a second considered quitting Webcasting because of ASCAP's dishonest scare tactics and I hope you won't quit either. The sky is not falling, the world is not ending, Internet radio will not be silenced, and ASCAP is not going to haul you into court. Like I say, I've been through this all before and this is nothing.  :)
Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Saying Good Bye Is Hard
« Last post by TheDrunkenScoundrel on October 01, 2017, 12:46:04 AM »
Best of luck.

Keep us updated, we all hope to you get back on the air!
Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Saying Good Bye Is Hard
« Last post by GabbyGary on September 30, 2017, 10:04:48 PM »
The GreatGold Classic Hit Oldies internet radio stream is on hiatus until further notice, for sure this time., which has played a mix of Classic Rock and Pop Oldies from the 1950s through the 2000s since 2008, ceased streaming September 30, 2017. The station, was started by a retired over the air radio broadcaster and continued to exist through funding derived from my retirement income. Due to personal emergency, it is necessary to redirect the money elsewhere, until current obligations are taken care of.

The last song played before the stream was stopped on September 30th was “If I Ever Lose This Heaven” by Average White Band, followed by a promotional message about how listeners could Be A Booster to Help Keep The Music Playing. Then, the audio of the music stream was silent. Hopefully it will reappear when funds become available to do so in the future.

Even though we tried to put it off as long as we could, we have finally reached the point that we must pull the plug on the Internet Radio Classic Hits Mix. Our website, itself, with internet pages of singer and musician birthday details, and other information, will continue, but the audio music stream must go on hiatus.

We have spent several weeks attempting to raise funds from donations and contributions from listeners, but we have not received the kind of response necessary to support the costs involved in running a legally operated internet radio station such as this. So, at least for now, listeners, such as yourself in countries all over the world will no longer have to turn to for our special mix of Classic Rock and Pop Oldies.

If you're interested to learn more, go to

Be good to yourselves, and, Keep On, Keeping On.

Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Crickets...
« Last post by FM5280 on September 27, 2017, 07:10:33 AM »
It's been well over 30 days since the last official word from SL/OI2, anyone have any insight as to what is going on?  No news is NOT good news in this case.  I have to assume that both sides are stalemated at his point in time.
Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Low ATH on Saturday?
« Last post by mrbill on September 23, 2017, 08:22:15 AM »
My 30 day ATH, which normally is close to 7,000, is at 86.  The problem has not been fixed yet.  I'm curious to see what my next bill will be.  If they base it off their ATH number, it will obviously be much lower than my normal monthly bill.
Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Crickets...
« Last post by CharlieF on September 14, 2017, 03:28:44 AM »
You wrote: "BMI stated in an email to one client of SL that they were working with SL to resolve this issue." That's great news, but why aren't we hearing that from SL? I personally don't feel wronged, but I don't like the way this is being handled. Again if law enforcement is looking into this it could get ugly not to mention put a lot of pressure on SL to settle this even if the terms aren't in their (our) favor because we would have to bear the brunt of a price increase. Logistically I may not be able to switch off SL by the end of the month unless it's not by my choice. Of course I will re-evaluate the situation, but I am leaning to bail if this situation still isn't going in the right direction.
Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Crickets...
« Last post by TheDrunkenScoundrel on September 12, 2017, 09:03:24 PM »
BMI stated in an email to one client of SL that they were working with SL to resolve this issue.
This makes ASCAP's response (IMHO) pretty crappy and maybe even downright deceptive.
I am much less worried than most because I live in California and we have a law here that allows citizens to basically assume the mantle of the CA State Attorney General.
If I feel I have been wronged I will take that route.
As it stands now I am standing pat and waiting for the dust to settle.
There is a great deal of legal wrangling in the industry right now and I expect it to be that way for some time.
I continue to pay my bills and will continue to act in good faith.
I know I have options so I am going to do things the way I have been doing them.
If someone comes to me and says I need to pay them extra, I will deal with it then.
Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Crickets...
« Last post by CharlieF on September 12, 2017, 05:48:53 PM »
I have very little faith in SL or whatever the company is being called this week in resolving this issue. If law enforcement is involved it could be a matter of weeks or even days before SL is shut down.
Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Crickets...
« Last post by elvise on September 12, 2017, 05:00:18 PM »
Hey the_grand,

Get on Facebook and request to join the "Internet Broadcasting Group." Then, once accepted, search "streamlicensing" and sort by Most Recent. 

Then you drill down on each particular topic in order to see all the replies.

There, they are much more on top of things than this board, which seems to be frequented by only a handful of broadcasters.

But, there are clearly two factions--one group that wants to take a wait and see approach (personally, I think we're way beyond that point), some of whom paid ASCAP the $200 and another group who have bailed, including a couple of broadcasters who have taken matters to the authorities in Florida. I don't blame them one bit. I've paid over $1,000 myself since last November.

Catch All Discussion Board / Re: Crickets...
« Last post by transistoroldies on September 12, 2017, 12:40:44 PM »
Nothing since August 24. :-\
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